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They said Thai artists mimicked Japanese

Many Thai J-Rock fans blamed Thai artists that they copied Japanese songs. In fact, they should believe in ability of Thai people, or say just, coincident or Japanese artists copy Thai things. Although one case is true, that does not mean other million cases have to be just like the first one.

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Listen To the Music, please scroll down to the end of the post.
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One of my friend that I met when I just had been a J-Rock fan, always told me that a Thai band called, Giwa copies his beloved Luna Sea. I was so young, and I did believe him. I believe many things flood around world wide web. Thai J-Rock fans keep post this kind of thing up. They matched short parts of some Japanese songs and Thai songs, and they said that Thai artist copies Japanese artists. Most of the parts they matched are less than 10 seconds, and it is very easy that musicians can think about the same thing. It is coincident rather that coping.


Mahidol Wittayanusorn Students with scholarship in their high school and right now they graduated in New York, England and Japan, Photo by Sw Eden

Thai people are not stupid, because they can own many copyrights they make by themselves. Thai people can work so well if a reward/award is waiting for them, such as world robot competition, or sport tournament. Naturally, Thai people do not like to step up without motivation. Thai musicians have a lot of motivation, especially pop-rock artists after 2000. Pop-Rock in Thailand have been popular again after 20-30 years. Between 2 eras, Thai people consumed much of sweet-pop songs. Many bands was founded in late 10 years, and many old bands did re-union. The boys want to be cool, especially for the sight of girls. They created a unique style of Thai Pop-Rock. Many songs may sound similar, because those kids grew up with pop songs. Some people are different, because they listen to other things, such as Thai country songs and other foreigners’ things.

I am the one who really like Thai country songs. If we do not count the style of voice and Thai instrument, many fast songs can be popular in Alternative-Rock/Pop world. Both sound very similar. Many Thai people also listen to Rock n’ Roll artist from the United States and Europe. They get the influence directly from the original rock bands, and they do not need to past J-Rock artist. Some Thai people also listen to J-Rock and do cover, but there is less percent.

Clash is another band that Thai J-Rock fans blames that they mimic “Forever Love” of X Japan in their song called, “Nangfa Naijai” (Angle in Mind). I do know both songs so well, and I cannot find that Clash really copies that songs. They are same type of music, but not the same song. Although Clash did cover of L’Arc~en~Ciel, it does not mean that they do not have brain to compose their own music. I am a Punk fan, and many Punk songs are similar. Let’s listen to sample of DecayDance things. They are similar and they are good!


Heath of X Japan, Rough Drawing by Sw Eden

Another important conflict is the song call, “Ter Mai Kir Tai” (You Have Never Died) of a Thai band called, Two (they have 2 members.). My parent keeps that albums, too. The famous guy named, Tong. He helped around many projects. Thai people know that he is really nice. Right now he is older, but he just looks the same. I do not know if this nice guy hears what some people are railing him. I pass around the websites, many Thai X Japan fans railed “Two”. Unbelievable, I saw a guy wrote, “Two-Kuy”. “Kuy” (ควย) is the rudest word in Thai Language. He blamed Thai artists who did not know what X Japan was about. The company always manages things for pop artists, and the only thing that the pop artists need to have is the great performance.

I did look through the track list of that album of “Two”, and style of X Japan songs. (It is 2 years, I was their fan, my early high school.) The melody is weird for Japanese songs, but the song composer is weird in “Two” albums. I could not say, but the news already said that. They said, Thai company has to pay for Yoshiki. I do not want to believe. It is just the late visits of Yoshiki in Thailand. So,… My early high school time, a senior guy who was a friend of “Yai” (Yai was known as a big fan of X Japan in our school.) told me about this conflict. “Two did release “Ter Mai Kir Tai” before X Japan release Say Anything”. If I can go back to that moment, I will never show the goat hand to him. I did,.., I did that hand. He ran behind me and tried to kill me. Where was my soul of Thai person? I had had it when I was a boy scout. I did respect King Rama VI. I love his firmly goal to make Thai people to love each other as one big family.

The news was unbelievable for many people. That song sound quite like Thai songs, and the lyrics can fit in so well. No matter what the reality is, but if there is no that song, many Thai people will never be fans of X Japan.


Tetsu69 of L’Arc~en~Ciel kills cat, Drawing by Sw Eden

There is another conflict of Neo Universe of L’Arc en Ciel, but that is a little thing. I think it is coincident, because it is just a small part of the song. Most of Thai L’Arc en Ciel fans are still young and rich, and they do not really care to talk about the past, because they look up the new stuff, and they talked a lot. I have many friends who like this band, that is why I can say. Like, once I met Kaun with her L’Arc book in a school bus, and we just began to talk although we had never known each other. We talked a lot. It is familiar in American people, but unusual for Thai people. (I am smiling.)

The main thing I would like to say is, Thai people always look down themselves. Many foreign songs were composed after Thai songs. Whenever they sounds the same, Thai people will say that Thai copied those foreigners.

There are other cases, such as Peace Maker’s songs and Josh Groban’s, and also the hair style and dress style of Thai teenager. Although the idea cannot be Copyrights, people keeps railing that style of dressing is wrong things. This may be only one attitude in a corner of Thailand, because most people do not care (me, too). They dress up and they want to be cool.

Let’s see the side of Thailand. What the songs that Thai artists composed before the foreigner and they sound the same! I am an audience and also an artist, and I will never say that they mimic each other. Many people can think about the same thing. The one part of melody or similar style cannot prove that that artist is the copier.

“There is no unique thing in the world. Everything you think that it is new, someone has done it before.”, Jiyoun Kim said.

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Listen to these coincident couple now!!
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* Paradox (Thai Band) – “Ta-Lai” (Slip)
http://www.imeem.com/people/NhZaiB/music/8yIHHWo0/paradox-10-mp3/
The beginning of this song is similar with Cobra Starship – Pop Punk is so hi’ 05
http://www.imeem.com/artists/cobra_starship/music/xwnpOen5/cobra-starship-pop-punk-is-sooooo-05/
This Paradox song is in album “Free Style” and was released before Pop Punk is so hi’05 about 2 years.

Both Paradox and Cobra Starship are Punk, so no confused that they can think about the same thing.


Paradox, a famous Thai Alternative Rock band


Cobra Starship and Victoria Asher

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* Zi:Kill (Japanese Punk Band) – Kiss Me Good Bye
http://www.imeem.com/people/MjSTkez/music/CLVxNBvB/zikill-kiss-me-good-bye/
The All American Rejects – The Wind Blows
http://www.imeem.com/theallamericanrejects/music/CLLCdDK5/the-all-american-rejects-the-wind-blows/
The beginning of both songs just sound the same, and I do not think that The All American Rejects will care about Zi:Kill. Alright, both are punk, .. again.


The All American Rejects, an American Alternative Rock band

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* Paradox (Thai band) – Greedy (similar at 2:30)
http://www.imeem.com/sw-eden/music/p9szG3Af/paradox-greedy/
Slipknot – The Nameless (similar at 3:00)
http://www.imeem.com/people/uvHKWM2/music/IPjRJ6Kv/slipknot-the-nameless/
For the international world, Slipknot is more popular than Paradox, but in Thailand, Paradox is more popular. I do not think that both will prefer to listen to each other. Paradox also released this song before Slipknot, too.


Slipknot is Cute, Drawing by Sw Eden

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* Dope – Pig Society (intro)
http://www.imeem.com/artists/dope/music/9kNkLZrn/dope-pig-society/
and Ebola (Thai Band) – “Kawm Pen Pai” (The way it goes) (intro)
http://www.imeem.com/people/nXyWCx8/music/zB-SDoqr/ebola/
Eggasit Gabungpai pointed that to me.


Edsel Dope Dread Hair, Drawing by Sw Eden


Ebola, a Thai Metal band

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* Zi:Kill – Lonely (intro)
http://www.imeem.com/people/MjSTkez/music/uOzAVj6Q/zikill-lonely/
Avenged Sevenfold – Dancing Dead (outro at 4:27)
http://www.imeem.com/people/E_VpXgQ/music/gEorD6X4/avenged-sevenfold-dancing-deadmp3/

First time A7X came into the music industrial, they were considered as a metal band, but now, they are considered as a punk band. Every Japanese fan of Zi:Kill know that Zi:Kill is punk. And very important for us to know that both Zi:Kill and Avenged Sevenfold have a super cool guitar solo. Zi:Kill may do not that great in Lonely, but all stuff in their Rocket album are so amazing! (Pick up the songs that Ken did the music)


Avenged Sevenfold A7X (Synyster Gates,The Rev,M. Shadows,Zacky Vengeance,Johnny Christ), Drawing by Sw Eden


Zi:Kill (Seiichi, Eby, Tusk, Ken), Drawing by Sw Eden

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* Michael Jackson – We are the World (Chorus)
http://www.imeem.com/artists/michael_jackson/music/QEwdUfPT/michael-jackson-we-are-the-world/
จรัล มโนเพ็ชร – อุ๋ยคำ Jaran Manoped – Ui Kam (Old Northern Woman)
http://www.imeem.com/gamink/music/o8h0emR9/ (at the first verse of this song)

Ui Kam may be older than We Are The World. I feel I heard of it since I was born. It is truly classic one, every Thai people know. It is beautiful and lonely. Jaran Manoped is also a great teacher of many Thai people. We all love him. He passed away in 2001. All his songs are forever songs.


จรัล มโนเพ็ชร Jaran Manoped


Michael Jackson, Thriller cover

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The All American Rejects – Night Drive (intro)
http://www.imeem.com/jmsabler/music/nDqCSEqx/all-american-rejects-night-drive/
Hideto Matsumoto (Hide) – Emotion In Motion (intro)
http://www.imeem.com/people/v4GYTlP/music/ZE93ITGf/inmotionmp3/

Most of my matching went to the bands that I can remember their things so well. It is not a lot of bands that I can remember every part of their songs.


Hideto Matsumoto (Hide , 秀人松本), Drawing by Sw Eden

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Paradox (Thai Band) – Balloon (at first verse)
http://www.imeem.com/people/i7OzZej/music/oP3rASE1/paradox-balloon/
Hideto Matsumoto (Hide) – Rocket Drive (at first verse)
http://www.imeem.com/zinger96/music/va3naIWH/hide-rocket-dive/

Paradox is so great at their show. Almost all songs of Paradox sound more modern than Hide’s. Paradox tend to be Alternative Rock, which is really popular in Western world such the United States and the United Kingdom. Hide is more into underground alternative rock, which can be found in both LA and NY. Although Hide did a lot of underground style, those songs are not popular. Hide’s songs which are popular are something modern; such as In Motion, Tell Me, Lemoned I Scream, Ever Free, Post and Honey Blade.


TarTar, the vocalist and music composer and lyricist of Paradox. He is very talented!

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ปู พงษ์สิทธิ์ คำภีร์ – โรงเรียนของหนู “Poo” Pongsit Kampee – Rong Rean Kong Nu (Our School)
http://www.imeem.com/people/oSl_ogm/music/wV8eYYsg/
The Academy is… – After the Last Midtown Show
http://www.imeem.com/artists/the_academy_is/music/7WoBSh9s/adam-siska-after-the-last-midtown-show-album-version/

Rong Rean Kong Nu is so classic, too. This song is very old, but still catching people’s hearts. If you know Thai language, you will cry since the first time you listen to it. It is strange that The Academy is… has the same stuff. The world is so coincident. I played Rong Rean Kong Nu on Harmonica, too. This song is about children who have a hard time to get to school. They lived on the mountain and their school is really faraway. They have to walk step by step. They love to go to school. This song reflect the city society that many children do not like the go to school, although they are so rich and very easy to go to school.


ปู พงษ์สิทธิ์ คำภีร์ เจ้าของเพลง โรงเรียนของหนู Poo Pongsit Kampee


William Beckett from The Academy is…, Photo by Sw Eden

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พลพล – ใจเขาใจเรา Palapon – Jai Kao Jai Rao (Your heart, My heart) (at Chorus)
http://www.imeem.com/people/ZI6Iass/music/iprc7M-m/
L’Arc~en~Ciel – Metropolis (at Chorus/Beginning)
http://www.imeem.com/people/VuZGAK/music/7xKOaUyO/larcenciel-metropolis/

I think Palapon heard of some other Thai older song. I had heard this vocal melody before when I was about 5 years old. (about 15 years ago)


พลพล Palapon


L’Arc~en~Ciel and Hide, Drawing by Sw Eden

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* Zi:Kill – Touch Me
http://www.imeem.com/people/MjSTkez/music/B-HLssGR/zikill-touch-me/
Marilyn Manson – Heart-Shaped Glasses
http://www.imeem.com/ilikeboobs/music/jWFluCr0/marilyn-manson-heart-shaped-glasses/

In fact you may notice a part of Ken’s song called, “Do you Believe in Magic” (at solo, 3:18-3:21)
http://www.imeem.com/sw-eden/music/o2rg3SZ4/ken-zikill-believe-in-magic/
I love Ken’s things, all make me smile.


Marilyn Manson, Drawing by Sw Eden

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* AC DC – For those about to Rock (we salute you)
http://www.imeem.com/acdc/music/4SNmf1WU/acdc-for-those-about-to-rock-we-salute-you/
Zi:Kill – Rocket (fast part)
http://www.imeem.com/people/cyBWrAg/music/H27jb3fb/zikill-rocket/

Oh hey! you know that Tusk Zi:Kill is a fan of AC DC (he might be a fan of Obama, too), but I am not sure about Ken. Zi:Kill did play Suffocate City of Sex Pistol. I do not know about their copyrights, because they do not blame any people who re-play their songs, too. Zi:Kill is so fun. Tusk draw “Z” during this show. (I am smiling) If you let me compare about “For those about to Rock” and “Rocket”, you can be sure that I do love Rocket. The guitarist of Zi:Kill always have a wonderful line. His solo is always optimistic and never ever boring.


AC DC band and its logo


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Your favorite artist does not have to be the first one who create the things. We should be very happy that someone thinks the same as our favorite artists. And now, we start to listen to the new things!! Our world is not just a box that other people cannot touch. We will never look down other people just because we want to praise our heroes.

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Paradox Thai band – Summer (Lyrics translated to Eng)

lyrics เนื้อร้อง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Music ทำนอง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Arranged เรียบเรียง : Paradox
Translated แปล : Sw Eden (http://sw-eden.deviantart.com)

ฤดูร้อน

By often, the soul walks away and doesn’t look at the side of way.
Drops of tear stay with non-benefir.

*I lose my way amoung many people.
It’s seem tangled
Back to see her, can’t find anyone
When she goes away

**Stand to look at the changed sky.
Summer, doesn’t have you, not like the past, without you.

Stop all of my heart, walk away without shining star.
Hold the tear, hold the heart and sadness

*,**

Stand to look at the sky, summer doesn’t have you, not like the past, without you.

By often, the soul opens and has never forgotten the life’s naration.
The old scene comes back, walk away doesn’t like the past.

Song : Summer (write : 11/1/49)

Boi1 krang7 tee2 jai Dern ork1 pai mai1 mong kang2 thang
Yod1 nam7 ta yu1 gud1 kwam mai1 mee ka1

*Chan+ dern loung+ thang yu1 klang pu2 kon
Du sub1 son+ wun2 wai
Han+ pai ha+ ther mai2 jer pu2 dai
Mear2 ther ma jark1 chan+ pai

**Youn mong thong7 fa7 mai2 pen chen2 keiy
Rui7 du ron7 mai2 mee ther, mearn+ kon1 mearn+ kaw1, kard1 ther

yud1 thang7 hau+ jai, dern ork1 pai mai2 mee sang+ daw
orb1 kord1 nam7 tar, ord1 kord1 hau+ jai gub1 kwam sao2

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Youn mong thong7 fa7, Rui7 du ron7 mai2 mee ther, mearn+ kon1 mearn+ kaw1, kard1 ther

Boi1 krang7 tee2 jai perd1 ork1 pai mai1 lurm roung1 raw
chark1 kao1 yorn7 ma, dern ork1 pai mai2 pen chen2 keiy

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Paradox Thai Bang – Old Theatre (Lyrics translated to Eng)

lyrics เนื้อร้อง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Music ทำนอง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Arranged เรียบเรียง : Paradox
Translated แปล : Sw Eden (http://sw-eden.deviantart.com)

โรงหนังเก่า

I walk pass the old theatre and I am sad.
I always remember, that we had watched the movie together
Today, we are far apart, and the new movie has been on air since yesterday.
You are so happy by holding hand with some other guy.

September 16th, I bend down to dry.
Your married day, it is stuck in my eyes.
You are too much happy, but I regret.
You think he is better, and you walk away so far till I cannot see.

* The high-class boy is so fuckin’ handsome
So you do not have time to visit this boring dog.
You want to famous with your foreign husband, I am so congratulatory,
I will just escape, because of your narrow mind

The poor ugly boy cries with his shovel
You, the cruel girl, how can you hurt this boy.
You forget all our promise, which we will do farm and shovel
You and he live in fabulous apartment, but I stand on this windy field.

( music / * )

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Paradox Thai Band – Say Hey! (Lyrics translated to Eng)

lyrics เนื้อร้อง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Music ทำนอง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Arranged เรียบเรียง : Paradox
Translated แปล : Sw Eden (http://sw-eden.deviantart.com)

Say Hey!

LaLaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa
LaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa Hey!

The way of life is sore, hot, painful, no scared, no swing and have never lost strong.
Spread the idea, no disturb, not pressure, no pretend and keep doing it.

I say hey! I say hey! I say hey! X3
I say hey! I say hey!

I have many views of life. Try first to draw, to write. So fun. Painting it for life
Walking by the dream, never stopped. Head to the biggest heaven confidently

I say hey! I say hey! I say hey! X3
I say hey! I say hey!

LaLaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa
LaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa Hey!

(music)

LaLaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa
LaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa
LaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa
LaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa LaLa Hey!

hey hey hey hey hey
hey hey hey hey hey

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Paradox Thai Band – It is so tired to be teenager (Lyrics translated to Eng)

lyrics เนื้อร้อง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Music ทำนอง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Arranged เรียบเรียง : Paradox
Translated แปล : Sw Eden (http://sw-eden.deviantart.com)

They tell me to do, they tell me to see, they say it is good; please stop
I want to do it my own, follow my dream. I cannot forbid myself, I want to tried.
The adults, parents look at me. They warn. You may think I am nonsense, I do not think and I do not care.
But I just wanna tell you, my life is not easy as that.
มั
* Will you change? If you try, you will know that the life has never stopped

** It is so tired to be teenager. It is the tired age.
I must do this; I must do that; every way.
It is so heavy to be teenager. It is the tired work.
Pressure from here, worry from there, every time.

I must read the book. Sleep late and wake up early. I have to go to tuition school. I must be nice boy. I must be special boy.
I must catch up the fashion. There are a lot of thing to know, and to try.
I must playing sport. I must watching TV. I must play the music. I must have girlfriend. I must have heart problem.
No one knows, my love is so chaotic.

( * / ** )

เป็นวัยรุ่นนเหนื่อย

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Paradox Thai Band – Look at the eyes (Lyrics translated to Eng)

lyrics เนื้อร้อง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Music ทำนอง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Arranged เรียบเรียง : Paradox
Translated แปล : Sw Eden (http://sw-eden.deviantart.com)

มองตา

* Hu…. LaLa

Look at the yes, look until the deepest of the mind
Look through, if you are interested, just look back.
Look Look, best expression have to be looked at the eyes
Look here, full the heart by looking

** Whenever I meet you,
I always crazy
My heart is shaken,
When you look at me
I want you to know
To know that
When I look at you
Are you interested?

Look at you, I know you do not have boyfriend.
You know? I have only you in my heart
Look now, how many times we look, we feel ChuCha
Look here, if not interested, will not look

( * / ** )

Look at the yes, look until the deepest of the mind
Look through, if you are interested, just look back.
Look Look, best expression have to be looked at the eyes
Look here, if not interested, will not look

Look, just try it
Look, just try it
Maybe you look

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Paradox Thai Band – Chacha (Lyrics translated to Eng)

lyrics เนื้อร้อง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Music ทำนอง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Arranged เรียบเรียง : Paradox
Translated แปล : Sw Eden (http://sw-eden.deviantart.com)

* Chacha da cha dadad chadaw
Chacha da cha dadad chadaw
Chacha da cha dadad chachadaw… huhu
X3

By you, you are like the shining sun.
You change the darkness to be the happy day of heart.
And you, you are like the wind that blow the regret,
And splash the honey instead

** Hold the hand, look into the eyes
I have never been tired
And I am ready to walk till the horizon

* X2
Your eyes, you highly empower, you sparkle my heart
Change it to be the new life, grace
And there is you near me. We will walk strongly
I want to do everything for you

( ** / * X2 / music / ** / * X2 )

ชัชชา

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Paradox Thai band: Send love, Send smile (Lyrics translated to Eng)

lyrics เนื้อร้อง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Music ทำนอง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Arranged เรียบเรียง : Paradox
Translated แปล : Sw Eden (http://sw-eden.deviantart.com)

ส่งรักส่งยิ้ม

Many people pressed themselves in sadness.
Look at the world pessimistically
Hate each other, fight each other, and do not yield
Forgot all good things
Have just poison, hurt each other, so chaotic

Open the mind, and try to find happiness
Replacing the sadness
Come on and love
Erase the splitting

* I will send the love, send the smiling.
Smile to each other, make the relationship
Give good things, care, love, everyday
Make new friends, near us
X2

( music / * )

I will send the love, send the smiling.
Smile to each other, make the relationship
Give to our big world, make it beautiful
Make new friendship, new peace
Give good things, say nicely, make the happiness, and have to make the loving.

(By Thai language, this song is not nude.)

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Paradox Thai band – Think (Lyrics translated to Eng)

lyrics เนื้อร้อง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Music ทำนอง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Arranged เรียบเรียง : Paradox
Translated แปล : Sw Eden (http://sw-eden.deviantart.com)

คิด

* If keep thinking, if keep dreaming, have to release first, it is not matter.
Want to know that you are there, you are at me or who?
Do not want to think, do not want to dream, have to release first, it is not matter.
Want to think that you did not think, so I would not think till tired.
( So tired when you are there, you make my mind so tired. )

You tempt my eyes with the lover acts, give me hope
Keep doing, stuck like this
But sometimes, you do not care and so cold.
Let me flowing on sad well. Our minds are stuck and do not understand

( * / music lalala )

Do not want to think, do not want to dream, have to release first, it is not matter.
Want to know that you are there; you are at me or who?
If keep thinking, if keep dreaming, have to release first, it is not matter.
Want to think that you did not think, so I would not think till tired.

yayaya lalala yayaya lalala

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Paradox Thai band – Just that (Lyrics translates to Eng)

lyrics เนื้อร้อง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Music ทำนอง : Ittipong “TaTa” Kidakorn na Ayutaya
Arranged เรียบเรียง : Paradox
Translated แปล : Sw Eden (http://sw-eden.deviantart.com)

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Just that that I can do, just composed love songs from my heart which I gave you.
Just that that I can do, already composed love songs from my heart which I gave you.

* Thinking about you all time we are apart, when will we meet again?
I have never stopped thinking; I need to love till die.

** I want to sing from my heart for now, and forever
Miracle, please do not disappear, please let me near you.
Do not wake up from daydream, it is hard to get up, I need just a chance, just that.

Just dream that I can do, just composed love songs from my heart which I gave you.

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